Do you want success with girls and don't know where to start? In this article, we asked one of our regular contributors Andrey Vysotsky to talk about his rich experience in seducing girls. You will learn where to start your journey in a pickup truck: what to read, where you can learn, what you should pay attention to, what mistakes await you ahead.
I can't cram all my knowledge and experience into one article. But I can tell you about the fastest ways to achieve the goal, and about the possible mistakes that lie in wait for you ahead.
So, you want to be great with girls. It doesn't matter if you want to wake up every morning with a new beauty or you need the one and only. In any case, you only have three options:
Waiting for fortune to shower you with money and beautiful girls lining up to jump into your bed? This will never happen.
The only thing that comes by itself is old age. Everything else needs to be achieved. It is difficult (sometimes very difficult). To do this, you will have to pull yourself out of your comfort zone: learn new things, try new things, change your habits, change your social circle. If you want results, you have to sweat. This is the law of life.
I think this is the best option of all. It has two decisive advantages:
But, unfortunately, there are several serious drawbacks:
If you didn’t get along with a good coach, this is not a reason to give up. You can learn everything on your own.
You will not get feedback and no one will give you a magic pendel (except yourself), but if you are determined enough, you will definitely achieve your goal. And in this article, I will help you do just that.
The network has a huge amount of free and paid information about seducing girls: books, blogs, forums, mailing lists, articles, etc.
Digging through this heap of slag and finding useful information in it is a very difficult task. But I also have good news: I already did it for you. Here's what I recommend reading.
On the Internet you can find many useful and interesting and, most importantly, free books from different coaches. Here are a few options that I find the most useful for a beginner.
My first impression of Egor is that he is a nondescript guy, he tells something about seduction - nothing so special. When I got to know him better, I realized that the first impression is deceptive. No matter what anyone says, he can communicate with girls phenomenally. Here is a video where he immediately gets acquainted with a girl right in a traffic jam:
He holds many different events: trainings, master classes, bootcamps, etc. including "Bachelor Party in Asia" in Pattaya. Here he talks about it himself:
In short, he definitely has a lot to learn. I advise you to definitely read his free book Secrets of Successful VKontakte Dating. The book is very interesting: little water, a lot of practical information and examples of successful phrases and dialogues from real correspondence. In order to download the book, you must go and leave an e-mail address. You will then receive an email with a link to download the pdf file.
Another must-read book by the same author is Little Kick to Big Sex. It contains a lot of interesting information about how to properly meet girls: how to approach, what to say, how to overcome shyness, etc. To download .
I have been following Roman for a long time. He has been in the subject of seduction and pickup for 10 years already. Author of courses, seminars and trainings. Trainer, coach, writer, etc. I don’t see the point in listing his entire track record - read it for yourself if you are interested. Here are some of his books to read:
Almost exactly what happened in October 1995, when the non-commercial computer network Fidonet (Fidonet) Sergey Ogurtsov opened the Ru forum. PickUp, which discussed the issues of "acquaintance with the opposite sex and the development of relationships." And although the participants of the conference were not world famous as the great Casanova, but the totality of their experience gave impetus to the development experiential approach to seduction.
That's how it came about pickup community, where each man's observations about how to succeed with women were discussed, systematized and entered into a knowledge base about specific qualities and behaviors that attract most women.
On this basis, formed pickup technology- a set of measures and actions designed to effectively attract an object of the opposite sex.
The term itself Pickup(English pick up - colloquially pick up) means acquaintance for the purpose of seduction. In such a narrow sense, it originated in the West, as a kind of gambling. However, over time, they started talking about a pickup truck as a scienceseduction and seduction, attracting attention, building strong relationships with the opposite sex.
Developing as a science, the pickup began to use the techniques of non-verbalism, neuro-linguistic programming, covert hypnosis and other manipulative techniques. A large number of seminars and trainings appeared, pick-up specialists began to publish manuals, blogs and forums. Pickup truck ideas have become popular among the youth.
Generally pickup training mainly give practical tips to the following questions:
How to find a girl ("pickup victim")? Experienced seducers offer the most suitable places for dating, days of the week and even times of the day when girls are most inclined to contact, evaluate the likelihood of a successful pickup in certain conditions, offer suitable options for pickup methods and techniques.
How to meet a girl? Pickup gurus tell what types of girls there are, how to find out as much as possible about the "pickup victim", how to hook her at first sight, from a half-word, or even by a smell or a familiar melody. In accordance with the situation, they will teach you how to choose words for dating.
How to attract her? Here opens a wide field of various ways to impress:
What is the fastest way to get close to her and seduce her? In this matter, pick-up artists often use neuro-linguistic programming techniques, tuning techniques, and other manipulations. The aerobatics of pick-ups is considered to be the creation of conditions and relationships so comfortable for the girl that the "victim of the pick-up" herself goes to the stage of seduction.
The pickup also touches on such problems as jealousy, painless separation, maintaining long-term relationships, unplanned pregnancy, and so on.
Exists ideological division among pickup artists on those who have turned the seduction of women into a "sport" to train their communication skills and use psychotechnics, and those who, using pickup methods, establish and maintain a comfortable relationship with "the one".
Now the movements of pick-up artists have begun to change in the direction of developing themselves as individuals. The seducer is no longer trying to hide his real self from the girl and build an image of a tough guy in front of her. He is constantly improving to actually become such a tough guy and win the unshakable right to date "the girl of his dreams." This movement in the ranks of a pickup truck is called Natural Game.
Also included here are green pickup rules, here is some of them:
Thus, the once-valid criticism of the pickup truck as "pure seduction without love" is slowly fading away as the art of seduction has moved beyond sporting interest to deeper issues of personal development and interpersonal relationships.
Historically, everything that is connected with teaching dating in Russia is usually called a pickup truck.
Now we will not go into details why it happened, but we will answer the main question: how exactly do you fill your life with really beautiful girls.
Do you want to learn how to "breed" girls?
Or do you still want your communication with women to become more
open, honest and enjoyable for both parties?
Do you want to learn how to squeeze girls?
Or do you still want to change in such a way as to become
objectively more attractive and desirable for girls, so that they
themselves wanted to have sex with you and they did not need to be persuaded to do so?
Do you want to learn how to "throw" girls correctly?
Or do you still want girls to have a good opinion of
you, respected and appreciated you?
"I've been through pickup training and I agree that many (perhaps most) of the pickup training exercises are idiotic. Their only purpose is to stupidly give courage to nerds, nerds and other notorious teenagers.
Examples of exercises (when I remember that I did them myself, it becomes disgusting):
to get to the bottom of the peasants (guards, sellers, etc.) - to wear them out with stupid claims a la “why don’t you work?”;
get to the bottom of the girls - why don't they carry condoms with them, etc.;
ask the girls to sing a song with you; get to the bottom so that she sends you or hits you;
ask a stranger for a gift, a glass of coffee, etc.;
somehow beg for a kiss on the cheek / neck / lips; well, and other insanity ...
I remember how disgusting it was, how uncomfortable. As a result, something changed inside and I became a slob. Now I'm not shy at all. But is it cool? I want to be a decent guy .. And the pickup coaches made asocial elements out of me and other participants. I would like to learn how to be an interesting conversationalist, to be able to give the necessary positive emotions, in general, to give joy to myself and girls from communication. A pickup truck is fake and rude in essence. Not for smart people."
Then maybe you need not a pickup, but something else?
You can attend pickup master classes for a very long time, take individual pickup lessons and wonder why the results do not please you.
You can find online pickup lessons and study them at home - even less sense.
You may be wondering how to become a pickup artist and even open your own pickup courses.
As my many years of experience show, this will not make you happier.
Using the pickup rules, you will learn how to “breed”, “squeeze” and “throw” girls, but we seem to have already decided that this is not what you need.
Which pickup courses are the most efficient? None. Which pickup coaching to go for? None. Pickup seduction lessons cannot be effective by definition.
My name is Thomas and I can cut your time down a lot. You don't have to learn inefficient and even destructive pickup courses. And we'll start right now!
To get started, read and feel these simple things:
The task of dating is not to "pick up the phone", as they say at pickup courses, but to impress the girl so that she wants to see you again, thinks about you and waits for your call.
The task of a date is not to "communicate without pauses", but to understand the essence of a girl and involve her in her world, showing her attractiveness.
The task of a relationship is not to have regular sex with a beautiful girl, but to make her happy every day and through this become happy yourself.
In 2007, I created the TLC project.
What is the difference between a TLC and a pickup truck?
The task of TLC is to make you such a man,
which you would wish for your daughter.
If you consider a girl a “victim”, “target”, “trophy”, and the process of communication itself is a “war” or “confrontation”, then this will never lead you to quality results with girls. It is necessary to get rid of these beliefs, and the pickup only perpetuates these ideas, offering a “new weapon” in order to win this “war” more often.
The basis of TLC is that there is no war.We have retrained hundreds of pickup training graduates. Pickup coaches often come to us. They all have the same goal - how to get to know a girl beautifully, easily and naturally.
Below we have provided 4 reviews from the most popular pickup trainings and pickup coaching.
Review of TLC after RMES
“2 years ago I passed the basic RMS. It turned out a little and everything that “the coach said, came down to one thing - do more approaches. I "learned a bit about brute-force seduction, but I wanted to be "really efficient. On the recommendation, I got to TLC and “I am immensely glad that I took part in LifeStyle coaching.
The TLC approach is fundamentally different from RMS. If on RMS “the goal of the first date is for the girl to come on the second, and the goal of the second is to squeeze for sex so that on the third she comes ready for sex” (this is the basic model called the “three date”), then on TLC such a primitive no close. At TLC, I realized that you don’t have to wait for a second date to start positioning yourself as a lover, but you need to do this even during the acquaintance, and most importantly, “positioning yourself as a lover” is not “molesting” and “groping”, but this the correct internal states through which to arouse a girl is now much faster. At rmes, work is underway with the behavior “do the right actions and there will be a result”, at TLC, work is underway with internal states.
“The TLC coaches have exposed a lot of my shortcomings. For example, at RMES they said, “that the club needs to do a lot of small communications with girls and guys. While doing this, I felt like a molester and “wasted a lot of emotions. At TLC, they showed me how to hang out in a club "for fun, with a sense of self-respect and make fasts without much "emotional cost. The so-called "good fasts". At the same time, we were all taken to the “rmes” to the factories, and to the TLC to the empire. I also really “liked the fact that LifeStyle coaching included “individual sessions with a trainer.”
Feedback on TLC after Alex Leslie
“My acquaintance with the topic of seduction began with Leslie’s book, and to my happiness, “as I now understand, I didn’t get to some kind of pickup training, but LifeStyle coaching. But my friend got on Leslie.
As a result: I get acquainted with the girls calmly, we quickly establish mutual understanding, I immediately make a call from above and position myself as a lover. My friend: behaves like an inadequate (I'm ashamed to even go to the club with him now), behaves like a jester with girls.
He runs around the club from one to another, paws everyone at once, and then wonders why no one wants to meet him. He was told, as they say, that you need to touch the girl right away, he freezes everyone with this. I don't care about touch at all. During dating, I usually don’t touch girls at all, and then everything goes fine. Another interesting point, on TLC I received an unequivocal answer: “if you invite a girl, you pay in the process of spending time”, and on Leslie, my friend was driven into the head that in no case should you pay. As a result, he again freezes everyone with his “alpha male principles”, and in a week I am flying with a girl whom I met in a shopping center to Cyprus, and there was no question from her that I should pay. Although I paid on dates and, in theory, in Leslie Psychology, she was like a “dynamo” and should have taken me on a trip. In general, on TLC everything is somehow humane and this view of seduction seems to me much more correct.
Review of TLC after Ortega Project
“Before I got to LifeStyle, I went through the Ortega training “Project. What did I take out of there? I understood how to behave in clubs, “what to talk about and in what light to show. I learned to “PR and in principle it gave good results. But, very soon, it began to bother me that the girls were not sleeping with me, but with “the image that I create. After sex, of course, the screen “fell and nothing went on, the relationship did not start.
The moment of truth was the situation when I liked a very beautiful girl in a cafe. About 25 years old in appearance, aristocracy in gestures, a formal suit. What I've done? I approached her and, as always, began to unwind: to tell what an interesting guy I am, what countries I have been to, how my friends and I rode on a yacht. All this, of course, to please her. She listened to me for about two minutes and then looked into my eyes so carefully and said a phrase that I remembered for the rest of my life: “What are you pretending to be? Why are you telling me all this? I don't waste my time on soap bubbles." I saw the light at the moment. In fact, all this social frills, unwinding and pressure by status worked only on the average pretty provincial women, but this did not add happiness and I did not want to build relationships with any of them. So I decided to go study natural seduction.
I registered on the site, listened to the audio, watched the video and decided to come to live classes. In a nutshell, I became real! I became myself the way girls like me! Without "pe esok", "interests on the list" and the correct position of the fingers on the pockets (who was, he will understand). TLC made me 10 years older.”
Review of TLC after PICKUP RU
“Before I took LifeStyle coaching, I took a pickup.ru course. Now, I can already objectively say that the whole model of “seduction” was presented there, like a fight with a girl, like “chess, where in order to have sex with a girl, you need to” beat her. Real war! And in war, as you know, all methods are “good: manipulation, templates, and obvious deception. It didn’t “impress” me at all, although I saw guys who were very pinched “just from this.
In the speeches of the coaches, hatred towards girls was openly visible, and it seems that this was the main motivation for seducing them. To make it clear, I will give a typical dialogue from the training:
Student: Yesterday, after a date, we went to my place, for about two hours I squeezed it, and then we had sex. She refused to do blowjob, but I twisted her hands, climbed on her and finished on her face.
Coach: Yeee! Cool you dropped it!
Of course, this brought some result, I took phone numbers from girls, but it was not at all what I wanted and I went to TLC. After pickup.ru, TLC was just a balm for the wound. I saw an intelligent trainer who loves girls and builds the whole model of seduction on mutual pleasure. The term "lowered" was not in sight.
I clearly understood how to think and what to feel in the process of seduction, so that both the girl and I understand that we are in the same trench and that there is no war. I really liked this approach and all the tricks that I learned on TLC fit very well into the map. The number of girls has not increased, but the quality has increased very much
I understand that it may not be easy for you to realize all this. Especially if you have already read some pickup books or watched online pickup courses. Trust me, the sooner you start learning TLC's natural seduction, the better it will be for you. Don't open it for later, start by watching my TLC-Basic course, since you can do it absolutely free!
Pickup school "hey". This is the simplest and most popular dating school. It's the school of the yelling pickup truck, "Hey girl, where are you going." And then there are offers to spend, drink or sleep right away. This school of dating has been familiar to 90% of the male population since childhood, so we will not dwell on its detailed analysis. Usually every fifth girl is easily given over to the “hey” pickup school already on the first evening.
Pickup school "uh". This is a more advanced method of seduction. This is a look pickup school, where a well-dressed guy meets the eyes of a stranger and smiles pleasantly at her. Wow, what a guy! If a girl responds with a smile, it means that she is not against the “wow” dating school, and she recognized you as a worthy guy. This girl is already waiting for an invitation from you for an evening date. Further, the guy can, at his choice, either continue to seduce her for two weeks at the “wow” school or sin with her with the help of the “hey” school that same evening.
Pickup school "oh". To do this, the guy instantly imitates romantic love at first sight. This is the pick-up school of quality chatter: he bombards the stranger with clean compliments and funny stories. Day, evening and night merge for the girl into one beautiful whole. According to the pickup school, "oh" the first morning lovers already meet in bed. Oh, I'm all yours! This is a very dangerous sexual school for the female soul, but, fortunately, only a few men who open girlish hearts like tin cans master it qualitatively.
In the first hour of your acquaintance, you should not ask anything from the girl, except, of course, her name. You must talk, talk, talk, without letting her come to her senses and change her mind. After hearing from you for an hour of interesting stories, she will also want to tell about her own. Here, don't interrupt her. Let her then retell you her funny stories from kindergarten and school. It is only necessary not to interfere and assent in the right place. Remember, if a girl told you, for example, how she visited her grandmother last summer, this is already half your girl.
In a few hours, the girl will still switch to the topic of love, tell something incomparably sad, beautiful and romantic about herself. For God's sake, just don't stop her from lying about it. Having reached the most tragic moment, the girl will begin to tell in a slightly trembling voice. Do not miss this moment, take pity on her, hug her, press her, kiss her hair - just not her lips (let her continue to gnaw her Orbit). If the girl responds correctly to your tenderness and understanding, then from the next day she will fall in love with you - the main thing is not to let go of your hands from the first evening. You will still have time to dissolve them.
Spend the whole second day on an interesting walk with a new acquaintance. Take her, for example, to nature, but bypass any bushes. You need to be patient with this a little, since any of your sexual haste will immediately be noticed by her - "He is the same as everyone else, he only needs this from me."
On the third day, be sad and don't tell her why. She will ask, she will burn with curiosity, she will even be offended a little. Wait until dark and tell a very tragic story about yourself. She should feel sorry for you - that's the only way women wake up in them. Let her hug you, stroke your head, press the edge of your chest against your shoulder. Answer her with one long male kiss. But just one and take her home.
On the fourth day, you should consider how and where you should drop or lean it. Don't be put off by any situation. A girl with a beloved guy can do this everywhere, but with an unloved one - only in a good environment. And then it's easy - half an hour of hot kisses, and happiness at any fence.
I would call this method "pickup school "ay", because in the last thirty years, it is according to this scheme that all good, modest and domestic girls have been seduced. Oh, what a fool I am for believing him! That's why I am writing in such detail about the "ay" pickup school, so that honest girls are also familiar with this insidious way of seduction and firmly hold their girlish defenses.
As for the other pickup schools, I would perhaps add a few words about the dating school “oh”. This typical disco pickup school - oh, oh, oh - who will I go home with! It differs from the "hey" school only in the place of the initial acquaintance. According to the pickup school “oh”, you just have to go to see the girl off, and then dissolve your hands to the very ground.
[School dating? Or humor? It's fun to sit in front of the monitor screen and laugh at the methods that you would use only in your thoughts. In real conditions, not everything is as easy and fun as on paper or in Internet articles. At the practical pickup trainings of dating and seduction from the Dating Academy, you will learn how to quickly seduce strangers in real conditions.]
[Alexander Sadovsky]
